At this stage I don't know how I am going to achieve it but how do you think I would go selling 1000 to 1500 X 12" camp ovens with COCIA® - 2008  embossed on one side of the lid and a Kangaroo on the other.

Have been doing some research with Chinese manufacturers/importers and 1000 is the minimum number they will manufacture and send across.

Here is an image, albeit small of a design that I am looking at.  The model doesn't show legs but anything I get manufactured would have them.

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/204837769/Cookware.jpg

I know you lot may all grab one but that isn't all that many when you have a couple of containers full of them. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Also having some business discussion over here with some people to look at the feasibility of it.  Possibly importing and distributing.

The Chinese will build anything and the prices are good (maybe less than a third you would pay for anything here in Oz) but you need to purchase big numbers.

The brain is working overtime on this one.  :D

Good thing you have a lot of mates up there Derek,otherwise it would take sometime to empty the container into your shed or maybe the loungeroom ( would make a great photo) lol
I,ll take a couple for myself,and could probably move some for you down here.
cheers George

Derek
The idear is good but you need a catch phrase..in the lid..
...as in (Drover's Best) (Matilda's Ghost) (Kidman's Pride) (Spur & Bit)
Just to name a few.. there are heaps.
Muzz

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pm sent ( I expect royalties)
another great Idea Muzz ::)
cheers George

Perhaps a fitting tribute to Kel
"The Furphy Slinger"
:'(

For what it's worth I like Murray's idea, the lids need a little something to make them "special" and to distinguish them from the common ovens available. Not a lot you can do , I have ovens from very old to very new from all over the world and they are all basically  much the same to look at.
When Derek first came up with the idea it was suggested then of putting a 'roo or a koala on the lid to make them a bit different and like Muzz says, "Drovers Delight" or "Barcoo Special" would set them apart.

pd

sooty wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 8:13pm:

Perhaps a fitting tribute to Kel "The Furphy Slinger" :'(

I like the thought Kev but "Furphy" already own that name.  They would crucify anyone using it on another camp oven.

1000 seems a lot to sell.  

On the negative side I don't like the (R) the same size as COCIA - I think it should be like this COCIA^®

As a marketing ploy having a kangaroo in particular and lets face we do stew and eat them might make it a collectors piece for overseas people and as gifts to them.  Why not the Kangaroo and Emu like our coat of arms with the name in between?

If  fancified up with the above if the finish is as good as the ones I have recently got (Camp Chef and Lodge) they could be promoted as Cast Iron to use on the stove top and in the household oven.  I guess the legs might be a nuisance but some might not mind them.  

This would also open up the market to non campers or as BBQ enhancers.

Of course Jennifer Hawkins cooking some prawns in one on the beach might sell a few also.  :D  

I reckon you'd do the job well Carolyn,

Knocking up some of those Chelsea Buns on TV Network or the like with some skimpy gear on.
I can see it now, it'd work I reckon.


All the best
Skip [smiley=yinyang.gif]

Most of the 4WD clubs have camping weekends where they could use COs.  Putting an advertisement in their magazines may sell a few.  The 4WD Qld Corroborree is on Labor Day weekend in May in the SE Qld corner.

Barb

Flattery will get you a long way Skip but I am a realist  :-*.

Another motto we have here is that you can sell anything if you make it cheap enough!!!

Hey Derek, have you thought of getting a price from Camp Chef, they do a pretty good oven and do smaller runs than 1000 units if some of the stuff I read is correct.


pd

It's a shame you cant get it done in Oz, but that's the way the country is go'in I suppose, everything cheaper offshore these day's.
I certainly would'nt mind paying a bit extra for something produced in Oz.
Astro.

IMHO as in been there - done that.

Go local.
Do quality.
Go "exclusive' and have them numbered.
Nice quality wooden box.
Recipe book to go with same.
Charge heaps and get about the same turnover in terms of dollars as if you went large quantity.

What makes an old Furfy so desirable?  It's rare my son - rare or exclusive and that's what sells.

My 2c worth.  Oh - and be prepared for a "knockoff" version of YOUR oven that will be sold to Joe Blows Camping for .10c each if you get it made O/S.  Me cynical???  Betcha!  And that won't happen if it's made locally.
I would buy a local product at 3 times the price (in the hundreds of dollars only - not more!) in a flash rather than buying an ase*^le as in everyones got one....and it's made somewhere else......

Not sure if this is rant or opinion...
:D

Mish Nodzio made to Aussie Bush Kettle and it sold very well.  Had a patent and all.  That patent has now expired like Mish and there are copies coming out.
The original kettles were pulling 4 times their new price on eBay not long back.
Niche market will win always.

I'm hear'in ya OJ.

I reckon you'd get rid of probably half here on the forum, for the other half, word of mouth and where do we all look? Ebay.

Mmmmmm.......If I win the Furphyslinger draw a couple more times the proceeds might have to go toward a new oven.

Robbo

"Probably half"  Now there is a market annalists best friend.  In best humour - there is no robust market research in that remark.  eBay is experiencing it's worst downturn in trade in 7 years.  I would be wary there apart from niche market items....hint......hint

again, my 2c worth...

Excellent idea Derek,

I remember that a year or two ago that Lodge did a special run of 1000 of the 5" ovens for someone in Japan. They had a special logo on the botom of the pot and could not be sold outside of Japan. However, I did hear of several that made it back to the USA, but not to me.  :( :( :( :(

The 6" Lodge's are currently being produced so it might not be too hard to get a special run of 1000 and your shipping costs would be lower due to overall weight of the 6" vs. the 12".  ;D

Best,
Duncan

Duncan,  Camp Chef are actually made in Asia.  It makes more sense to me with the higher quality of oven to try them.  Their freight costs should be less than with Lodge.

Also, this crew seems to really like the Cabelas, which are Camp Chef produced.

Also, going back to the Lewis and Clark commemorative.  I don't know Aussie history so well that I would come up with an Aussie 'event' as well known as that of Lewis & Clark over here.   But isn't there something?  Best I can come up with is Gallipoli.  

8-)

A Bourke and Wills with a camel on it... LK......Great thinking.

Muzz

Little_Kopit wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 2:36am:

Duncan,  Camp Chef are actually made in Asia.

Yep, China, So says the label on the bottom of each pot. ;)


Little_Kopit wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 2:36am:

It makes more sense to me with the higher quality of oven to try them.  Their freight costs should be less than with Lodge.

Ok, here is where we are going to agree to dis-agree. I like Lodge because they appear to be of the higher quality to me.  :(


Little_Kopit wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 2:36am:

Also, this crew seems to really like the Cabelas, which are Camp Chef produced.

I have been to a Cabelas store and I have seen the 20" monster.  :o
Cabelas is able to get a bulk discout from Camp Chef that is cheaper than Lodge. Does that make Camp Chef better? That is up to the end user with the money. :)


Little_Kopit wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 2:36am:

Also, going back to the Lewis and Clark commemorative.  I don't know Aussie history so well that I would come up with an Aussie 'event' as well known as that of Lewis & Clark over here.   But isn't there something?  Best I can come up with is Gallipoli.   8-)

With all due respects to the honored Aussie veterans, both living and dead; it does not compare. Lewis & Clark was in effect equal to the Apollo 11 moon mission of the 1960's according to some historians.

What is the Aussie equal? I don't know Aussie history that well. :(

Best,
Duncan

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 9:58pm:

IMHO as in been there - done that. Go local. Do quality. Go "exclusive' and have them numbered. Nice quality wooden box. Recipe book to go with same. Charge heaps and get about the same turnover in terms of dollars as if you went large quantity.

Yep, Yep, Yep. I would soon pay more for a higher quality, Local, "exclusive" Oven rather then an oven made offshore. I like the idea of having them numbered. but (wouldn't that mean each mould would be unique, $$$$$ ?)

Regards

Jono

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 12^th, 2008 at 9:58pm:

IMHO as in been there - done that. Go local. Do quality. Go "exclusive' and have them numbered. Nice quality wooden box. Recipe book to go with same. Charge heaps and get about the same turnover in terms of dollars as if you went large quantity. What makes an old Furfy so desirable?  It's rare my son - rare or exclusive and that's what sells. My 2c worth.  Oh - and be prepared for a "knockoff" version of YOUR oven that will be sold to Joe Blows Camping for .10c each if you get it made O/S.  Me cynical???  Betcha!  And that won't happen if it's made locally. I would buy a local product at 3 times the price (in the hundreds of dollars only - not more!) in a flash rather than buying an ase*^le as in everyones got one....and it's made somewhere else...... Not sure if this is rant or opinion... :D

I agree,
Have you thought of making your own pattern from wood & getting them cast locally Derek??
Most Aus founderies will pour them for $10 per Kilo, for a 12" oven thats about $60, dear when you compare to "Chinese cheapies" but they are a "dime a dozen" if you make them exclusive & you may be on to something & you can cast in smaller numbers as need arises.

Mick.

Like Jono I would be prepared to pay more for a "good" oven rather than a mass produced  Chinese cheapie, (I've got enough of them now).
Something special with a name etc on the lid and robust like a Billmans, yep I'll buy a set.

pd

Duncan MacDuff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 7:15am:

With all due respects to the honored Aussie veterans, both living and dead; it does not compare. Lewis & Clark was in effect equal to the Apollo 11 moon mission of the 1960's according to some historians. What is the Aussie equal? I don't know Aussie history that well. Best, Duncan

Mmmmmm......all due respects?
I'm sorry Duncan, but I dont think anything is equal to the loss of thousands of Aussie lives, especially a few guys playing spacemen.

Robbo

Duncan MacDuff wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 7:15am:

[quote author=Little_Kopit link=1218532013/19#19 date=1218559016]Also, going back to the Lewis and Clark commemorative.  I don't know Aussie history so well that I would come up with an Aussie 'event' as well known as that of Lewis & Clark over here.   But isn't there something?  Best I can come up with is Gallipoli.  8-)

With all due respects to the honored Aussie veterans, both living and dead; it does not compare. Lewis & Clark was in effect equal to the Apollo 11 moon mission of the 1960's according to some historians.What is the Aussie equal? I don't know Aussie history that well. :(Best,Duncan [/quote]

My good friend Duncan..We are going to disagree.Gallipoli is more important to Aussies than, walking on the moon or bushwalking over North America.Gallipoli and the Anzacs are deep within the emotions of the Australian spirit. Did the anniverary of the moon walk or L & C.... BRING A TEAR TO YOUR EYE.
Anzac day remembrance does for me.

However, COs are not fitting for Gallipoli or the Anzacs.

My money is on Burke and Wills

THIS POST WAS NOT MADE TO GET ANYBODY OFFSIDE.
IT IS WRITTEN WITH LOVE AND AFFECTION FOR ALL

Aart

TBF wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 3:19pm:

My good friend Duncan..We are going to disagree.Gallipoli is more important to Aussies than, walking on the moon or bushwalking over North America.Gallipoli and the Anzacs are deep within the emotions of the Australian spirit. Did the anniverary of the moon walk or L & C.... BRING A TEAR TO YOUR EYE. Anzac day remembrance does for me. However, COs are not fitting for Gallipoli or the Anzacs. My money is on Burke and Wills THIS POST WAS NOT MADE TO GET ANYBODY OFFSIDE. IT IS WRITTEN WITH LOVE AND AFFECTION FOR ALL Aart

Fair call RT, fair call.

Robbo

TBF wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 3:19pm:

However, COs are not fitting for Gallipoli or the Anzacs. Aart

It is a strange irony Aart that some of the beloved Metters ovens we have in our colections may have seen service over there in the thick of it,
I did some research when I bought my 12" Metters & found that the Metters foundry supplied a big majority of the cook ware to our boys early last century.

However I agree that our explorers or a "swaggie" would be more suited to adorn the lid of a classic Aussie Camp Oven.

Mick.

BillyBushCook wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 4:08pm:

TBF wrote on Aug 13th, 2008 at 3:19pm: However, COs are not fitting for Gallipoli or the Anzacs. Aart It is a strange irony Aart that some of the beloved Metters ovens we have in our colections may have seen service over there in the thick of it, I did some research when I bought my 12" Metters & found that the Metters foundry supplied a big majority of the cook ware to our boys early last century. However I agree that our explorers or a "swaggie" would be more suited to adorn the lid of a classic Aussie Camp Oven. Mick.

A swaggie, now there is a thought...
I have read about the camp ovens in France and Gallipoli.
The Furphy watercarts as well.
We may have to check out some antique shops in France for old CI

Aart

TBF wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 5:06pm:

BillyBushCook wrote on Aug 13th, 2008 at 4:08pm: TBF wrote on Aug 13th, 2008 at 3:19pm: However, COs are not fitting for Gallipoli or the Anzacs. Aart It is a strange irony Aart that some of the beloved Metters ovens we have in our colectionsS may have seen service over there in the thick of it, I did some research when I bought my 12" Metters & found that the Metters foundry supplied a big majority of the cook ware to our boys early last century. However I agree that our explorers or a "swaggie" would be more suited to adorn the lid of a classic Aussie Camp Oven. Mick. A swaggie, now there is a thought... I have read about the camp ovens in France and Gallipoli. The Furphy watercarts as well. We may have to check out some antique shops in France for old CI Aart

Sorry guys, I checked that idea out more than a year ago.  I wanted to know about typical shapes for earlier ovens.  What I found out is that they all got melted down for the world wars.

& yes, I had read in Furphy info. of the Furphy water cart and ovens being over seas.

8-)

After reading all of this I am not sure just what would be suitable.

Personally I don't think that anything related to Gallipoli would be appropriate.

Burke and Wills while they are famous for their explorations I doubt would have carried a camp oven.  As opposed to the Lewis and Clark expedition where it is said that they did have a cast iron dutch oven.  The designs on Camp Chef are centered around certain aspects of their travels and what happened along the way.

Lodge have also made a Lewis & Clark Commemorative camp oven.  Here is a pic.  Yes I want one of those as well.  It's a 12"  ;D ;D ;D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MGKH6ER8L._SS500_.jpg

We are talking Camp Oven Cooking In Australia or COCIA as the main theme.  The camp oven in Australia was the pot that every family would have had at home many years ago.  It was also recognized as the cooking implement for drovers and shearing sheds and I think many of our current recipes came from drovers or shearers cooks.

Also going to Camp Chef and getting them to make ovens for us would also make it very expensive.  However, I can go direct to the Chinese manufacturers of Camp Chef and get the same quality for a fraction of the price.  Yes, even pre-seasoned with vegetable oil.

I'm currently getting details on import regulations and tariffs to see how I will go on this.

Keep the thoughts and ideas coming though as this is not going to be a short project.

Thanks

Derek
Call up Goggle on Burke and Wills 3 Camp ovens weight 77 lbs.

Muzz

Yes Derek, They would crucify you, not us for buying them.

With Kel being a drover in his earlier days I think the droving theme is the way to go, sort of a roundabout tribute.
A search of "drover" will reveal  Furph's posts on droving and CO
Kev

PS. Put me down for one at least

A lot of our pioneers would have lived on Camp Oven cooked meals. From explorers to prospectors, drovers, station camps & still being used as the main cooking vessel by many camps today, not just enthusiasts. I like the drover theme or just someone using a CO as they were used by so many.
LogFire

Robbo wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 3:07pm:

Mmmmmm......all due respects? I'm sorry Duncan, but I dont think anything is equal to the loss of thousands of Aussie lives, especially a few guys playing spacemen. Robbo

I agree, Not equal.

Duncan.

TBF wrote on Aug 13^th, 2008 at 3:19pm:

My good friend Duncan..We are going to disagree. Gallipoli is more important to Aussies than, walking on the moon or bushwalking over North America. Gallipoli and the Anzacs are deep within the emotions of the Australian spirit. Did the anniverary of the moon walk or L & C.... BRING A TEAR TO YOUR EYE. Anzac day remembrance does for me. Aart

Greetings Aart,

No, the moon walk and L&C do not bring a tear to my eye.

What brings a tear to my eye is...

...the 86 year old World War Two veteran that I visit every Thursday night in the nursing home.  :'(

...the look on the faces of the veterans when I and my wife thank them for their military service.  :'(

...the thanks I get for assisting a Vietnam vet around his house doing general stuff that he and his wife can't do; because he is on cruches and in cronic pain due to battlefield injuries and his wife had a hip replacement. Not to mention the food I bring each visit because they have so little income. :'(

I am not putting down the sacrifices that the Australian Veterans have given for Australia and the rest of the world. I would like to say thank you to them for what they have done yesterday to make it a better world today.

I think that this is enough on this subject, I am sorry for opening this subject. :(

Best, Duncan :(

Duncan MacDuff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 3:03am:

Not to mention the food I bring each visit because they have so little income.

Is that camp oven food Dunc?  [smiley=drool5.gif]:)

Robbo

Lets get back and on topic here.  No slap on wrist remarks.  A COCIA theme is (IMHO)needed.
If I may be bold and generate a conversation on what would be a defining theme for an Aussie camp oven.  Burke and Wills?  Ned Kelly?
Now Derek might have a completey different outlook on this and it's his call (and money)
To generate sales and market interest then a theme is necessary. Thats the rub.

Suggestions???  No Derek, I'm not hi-jacking, just posing the question.... ;)

Hey OJ I like the Ned Kelly idea & would look good too!!

Skip

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 9:08pm:

uggestions???No Derek, I'm not hi-jacking, just posing the question....  ;)

All suggestions welcome.

;) ;D

I agree with Skip, Ned Kelly is a good idea.
The Southern Cross incorporated may make a nice touch as well?

Robbo

How about an image like from "Man from Snowy River" you know the Joker on the horse with stockwhip held high  
in hot pursuit of some wild stallions?
I really like that stuff or a Cobb & Co wagon drawn by a few Horses look good too.
Or maybe a shearer leaning over a sheep (Merino of course) knocking of the fleece.??

Just an idea.
Regards Skiproosel [smiley=chris.gif]

Sorta something like this

Skip

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Or this

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I personally think less is sometimes more. I have a camp oven thats called a "Pearce Bushman" a great oven with a great simple name. What about a COCIA Bushman or Swagman no fancy prints or pictures just a few letters that would mean something to the people that would buy and use one. I think the letters COCIA should be the main focus of the oven....................but thats just my opinion.
Astro

I see your point Astro & fair enough too,makes good sense.
But I have also observed all the people on here buying ovens from Camp Chef with the Etchings on the lid, people seem to like that but I'm with you,my opinion only that what this excercise is about.

Regards Skip

skiproosel wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 9:57pm:

I see your point Astro & fair enough too,makes good sense. But I have also observed all the people on here buying ovens from Camp Chef with the Etchings on the lid, people seem to like that but I'm with you,my opinion only that what this excercise is about. Regards Skip

I got my x 2 lewis and Clark cos they were preseasoned, had legs on the base and the lid and were generally good quality.

Must say the fancy work on the lid was not the attraction for me.
They are more handsome than a BCF chinese CO.

Aart

As the owner of a CI CO that I think is Aussie made but unbranded I am keen to buy an oven that has a brand name on it. Don't care what else is on the lid as long as it's branded. Maybe there are others that think along similar lines.
LogFire

KISS

5 stars on top and COCIA under the neath on the lid.  Can't mistake it .  I retract my earlier comments regarding Ned per se.  Can't have a common criminal on our stuff - can we.... ;)

Just to put another perspective on this.  One of my most treasured possessions is a chess set that is in cast.  It was done by a local artist and is a limited production.  I have NEVER seen a Lord of the Rings chess set come up on eBay or elsewhere by this artist.

I'm hoping this run of COCIA ovens will be in the same ilk.  Again, just my 2c worth.
:)

"Once purchased - never sold"

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 15^th, 2008 at 9:02pm:

I retract my earlier comments regarding Ned per se.Can't have a common criminal on our stuff - can we....

Actually, considering that I worked in prisons for 35 years that could be quite catchy.

We could call it the "Crim And The Keeper"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Derek wrote on Aug 15^th, 2008 at 9:10pm:

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 15th, 2008 at 9:02pm: I retract my earlier comments regarding Ned per se.Can't have a common criminal on our stuff - can we.... Actually, considering that I worked in prisons for 35 years that could be quite catchy. We could call it the "Crim And The Keeper"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Now there is a quote worthy of keeping.   ;D

 

I am not sure how detailed pictures can be but in my mind I like a classic picture of the stockman resting on a gum tree with his camp oven on the fire.  Maybe as its your show Derek with a bullock in the background.  

Some nice ideas in here I thought of this and that Ayers Rock, Boomerang, Ned Kelly, in NSW the Explorers Tree is of importance, but really it would be be hard to go past the Southern Cross Stars as mentioned and the name COCIA.

A lot of interesting suggestions but  like OzJ says , KISS.  The stars of the Southern Cross is a good idea, COCIA under the lid and/or on the base of the pot but above all else it must be different from the common Chinese pots why else will anyone pay the extra $$. JMHO


r

I had a play, remember I am just a little ole granny not a professional and self taught at that, but I like a visual.  My preference if I was organising it was to go for Bullock. Not sure of whose this one I cloned from but I like the idea of the frying basket as well.  

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6356/bullockgx3.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3362/bullockoj2.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1295/starjp4.jpg

Nice work Carolyn, love it!!

Looks unreal Carolyn.
Gonna have to order 30" pots to fit all the great ideas on it. ;D ;D
Speaking of aussie ideas, just had another, what about a jolly swagman camped by a billabong under the shade of a coolabah tree?
Mmmmmm...thats kinda catchy, someone should write a song about it. :D :D

Robbo

What about the words "COCIA - 08" and "THE OUTBACK"

I like it Derek, but what about the possibility of being locally made in Oz???
Can it be done?
It would certainly be of greater appeal to many of us here if it was produced locally I believe.
What are your thought's

Very good Carolyn..I must say the Buffalo impresses me.
Derek "The Outback" is as good as any.

Muzz

hi like the bullock  idea it  looks great  ide buy one   ;) cheers warren

Top ideas folks, I like 'em all. As I said earlier I personally would like to see a casting of an Aussie Icon on the lid,I really don't care either way except I'll probably need to decide if I want 3 or 4. ;D

(I seem to recall how much people on here approved of the Maca ovens and that they looked great with the lids etched?)

Remember though it is Derek that has to move these things (1000) and I reckon we are only a very small percentage of the sales needed. I asked twenty people yesterday (work colleagues and friends if they would prefer a plain lid with just some letters or words or a characture placed on the lid--guess what, the whole 20 said they would prefer to buy an oven with a piccy on the lid!!)
Maybe if we all asked our friends etc it may provide Derek with some market research that he may appreciate!.

That's it from me, I'll be happy whichever way the dice rolls.
Don't worry be happy!

All the best
Skip [smiley=batman.gif]

Further playing

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5340/08jk0.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9981/outbackqu3.jpg

Love the work Carolyn.  I am very partial to the 5 stars and wave it about as much as I can.
I wonder if we could put the word "Outback" across the bullock horns???????????????????

8-)      8-)

I'm not a good artiste with photoshop etc....and as it sounds like Derek has some trouble making his mind up - on the horns of a dilemma..... :-?

I still like the name BULLOCK and the stars.  I asked the Marketing Guru here and she suggested AUSSIE OUTBACK as the name.  I need a better lid the angle is a bit hard for circles and the name in the steer horns.  Tomorrow is another day LOL.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/498/aoem3.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2006/oboxenyl8.jpg

I think there are too many choices, the dog on the tucker box, an aboriginie face, boomerang, uluroo, the endeavour, etc etc all depending on what you relate best to.  I looked at others and some are good, some are fussy and some are plain. I had another couple of plays but will try to forget  :D unless someone has an idea they would like me to play with.  Glad I don't have to made a decision on it and I guess thats where you need experts.

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http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6378/cockiexj5.jpg

Carolyn

What about an emu looking at a kangaroo.
The coat of arms minus the crest in the middle.

I do love the Southern Cross.
Makes me want to break out in verse..

Beneath the Southern Cross I stand
With a can of XXXX in my hand.
A tribute to my native land
Australia, you bloody beauty
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Aart

XXXX? ow yes ,in victoria we use this for a  cure for constipation ;D
cheers George

By the way,I like the KISS system,
cocia on the top of the lid,with either the southern cross or stockman below it.
cheers George

hotwelder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2008 at 7:37pm:

XXXX? ow yes ,in victoria we use this for a  cure for constipation ;Dcheers George

Thanks George,,, :'(

;D ;D ;D

Aart

TBF wrote on Aug 17^th, 2008 at 7:41pm:

hotwelder wrote on Aug 17th, 2008 at 7:37pm: XXXX? ow yes ,in victoria we use this for a  cure for constipation ;Dcheers George Thanks George,,, :'( ;D ;D ;D Aart

pmsl,your welcome ;D
cheers George

One wonders what you do with the XXXXX to cure ya constipation... ;D ;D

Insert this side up ? Down? Got me buggered!!

Does it work? :-?

Grrr!!!

Aart I couldnt seem to find a kangaroo and emu that came up close in colour, these are from the 20c coin.  These things I play with are just meant to be a very rough idea of how it might look.  There is a great dollar coin with a stockman on a horse with a whip but I would expect anything of this nature would be heavily copyrighted and cost heaps.

I think you have been very serious about this  :D.  

Being from Sydney I am well over the Harbour Bridge and Opera House but I kinda expected a mermaid or similar  ::) from someone  :D.

But its obvious your all more interested in your XXXX  :D

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3705/kangaroofo8.jpg

Been thinking about this and what are the features I would have if I was casting an oven for myself ? I wrote out all the things I reckoned important and a Billmans oven filled most of them, robust, good design and finish etc etc.
George nailed it with the design on the lid, a Southern Cross with COCIA 2008 under it, and as Astro said, " More is Less", too much detail detracts IMHO..... KISS .

pd

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8462/cociadq1.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6901/coinen1.jpg

MMmmmmm, I take back what I said, the Southern Cross design does look a bit ordinary, it needs something that will appeal to the most buyers, 1000....

pd

skiproosel wrote on Aug 14^th, 2008 at 9:19pm:

Or maybe a shearer leaning over a sheep (Merino of course) knocking of the fleece.??

As long as he's not a Kiwi shearer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BillyBushCook wrote on Aug 18^th, 2008 at 1:18pm:

skiproosel wrote on Aug 14th, 2008 at 9:19pm: Or maybe a shearer leaning over a sheep (Merino of course) knocking of the fleece.?? As long as he's not a Kiwi shearer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Where men are men - and sheep are nervous".   ;) :o

Now here we are doin' all the work while Derek just sits back and laps it all up......
I got it WRONG - the buffalo is a feral, and come to think of it (along the lines of Ned Kelly) do we need a Galah, or an itinerant worker
(swaggie) or a man who was told to "stay away" in the pursuit of the colt from Old Regret (won't do as he's told...)

My pick would  be the simple and elegant design from Carolyn which was the 5 stars and COCIA in Oz underneath.
And lets be practical here - who is going to see that design when said pot is covered with coals.
OK what do we do when the CO is displayed.  Looks good with the simple design on the lid.  What happens to the main body?  Methinks Derek needs to engrave his bottom so we can IDENTIFY the CO from the posterior view!!!!!  I encourage all to raise their thoughts about  about bottoms so we can get this part sorted.  We need to identify from the base - getting silly - going now...

Nice work Carolyn...... :)

I think what I went to say is that when we turn the CO over it DOESN'T say "Made in China"

OzJeeper wrote on Aug 18^th, 2008 at 10:04pm:

I think what I went to say is that when we turn the CO over it DOESN'T say "Made in China"

Can always get them to remove the 'Made in China" sticker  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am sure that our friends in China read these forums as I am starting to get some very interesting emails with offers to assist in this project.

Things like - a custom made timber box containing a pre seasoned cast iron camp oven made to my design together with a camp oven lifter, pre seasoned cast iron skillet, a cap and an apron.

Very interesting for sure.


Derek

Derek that sounds like the deal they have at Rays Tent City for $99 although they dont have an apron in theres,or a cap
cheers George

I would get one or two.... Like the wooden box idea.

Derek wrote on Aug 26^th, 2008 at 8:32pm:

Things like - a custom made timber box containing a pre seasoned cast iron camp oven made to my design together with a camp oven lifter, pre seasoned cast iron skillet, a cap and an apron.

Need to make sure the lifta is a good'n like the MAIR...


Count me in as well...

Grrr!!! 8-)

Wooden boxes, aprons, hats, mair lid lifters, what price are we pushing these ovens up to?
I dont mind paying for quality, but Im fine for lifters, and the apron may clash with my fishnets.

Robbo

And I reckon you,d look a treat in them too :o
cheers George ;D