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Can't help you with ID Skip but I have an oven with those unusual "swirl" marks inside the pot however the casting marks around the ears and lid handle are very different.
Not a bad little pot, tell us some more about it.

pd

Thanks PD,

I picked it up in Gympie a few months ago. Some of the casting pock marks inside are quite deep(they must be nearly through) I don't know if this is a sign of poor casting or from an impurity in the iron.

Beneath the lid are three raised nibs to obviously let out the steam.

PD the swirly marks all over the oven ,like yours has me intrigued.

The bail arm is in three pieces, an arm coming up from each ear and a solid ring in the centre.
Once again I don't know if that would be original kit or manufactured later.

I don't remember what I paid for it but think it may have been 80 or 90 dollars.The seller told me it was extremely old but could not elaborate on that.

I was wondering if the cast spur on the bottom meant anything, but I don't know where to start looking for that symbol.

All the best
Skip

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

I was wondering if the cast spur on the bottom meant anything, but I don't know where to start looking for that symbol.

There was an old oven on ebay not long ago, I think it is in the 'Albion?' thread. Someone did mention that the cast spur was a method used in casting back in 1800's.
Might have a really old one there Skip.

Robbo

Hope your right Robbo!!

Regards Skip

Nice looking CO there Skip

I got an "F" for CO at high school. :-[. I got no idea.
It sure looks like a keeper though.

Aart

Send it up to my place for closer analysis Skip. Im no expert but Ill have a look at it for ya. ;)

Robbo

Looks to me like you oven dates from 1500 AD to around 1775 AD. I say this as it looks like a sprue mark on the bottom of the base. Also, from the look of the casting marks on the lid and the base around the handels that they might be original to each other. :)

Will we ever know? Not likely. Dating cast iron can only be done based on what is visible (i.e. the sprue mark). :-/

Any pics of the inside of the lid?

Best, Duncan

Duncan, Spru mark dates are for North American ONLY.

I have not seen, except in photo an oven with a spru mark from the later part of the 20th century.

I have hesitated to speak up because I'm Canuck, not Aussie. The idea of standards applying to all continents is really one that only arrives in the late 20th century. Such international standards definitely do not apply to things very local, such as foundrys.

I suspect there are regional variations within N. America, too.

Remember it's only since World War II that the average Jill or Joe has been able to travel widely. & sometime in the 50s & 60s before televisions (ie. visual images) arrived in most N. American households, never mind India, central Africa, the Sobbo Steps, Gulag, etc.

8-)

Little_Kopit wrote on Sep 24^th, 2008 at 8:13am:

Duncan, Spru mark dates are for North American ONLY.

OK, I did not know that the sprue mark was for dating just the Yankee Iron. I shall keep that in mind for the future. As for the CO in question I guess that I have not a clue. :-?

If I did have a clue I might say that the lid looks like it has a sprue mark in the center. :-/

Hey Skip,
For what it is worth, it is a nice CO. Season it, cook in it, and have many a good meal. If you don't want Yankee Iron, as it has the sprue mark, I can send you my shipping address. ;)

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

I Some of the casting pock marks inside are quite deep(they must be nearly through) I don't know if this is a sign of poor casting or from an impurity in the iron.

Could be one or the other or both, or even a rust hole. Keep seasoning that area until it fills in.

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

Beneath the lid are three raised nibs to obviously let out the steam.

Or they could be part of the casting process. They might be the left over marks of the vent holes that let the iron fill in around the edge. The lid likely might have been cast upside down.

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

PD the swirly marks all over the oven ,like yours has me intrigued.

Might be from the casting process, i.e. the maker brushed the mold to smooth it before the casting.

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

The bail arm is in three pieces, an arm coming up from each ear and a solid ring in the centre. Once again I don't know if that would be original kit or manufactured later.

Likely later and made by a blacksmith custom for the CO. This was common in the early days. I think that it is only in the last 100 years or so that the wire bail handels are used, not sure.

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

I don't remember what I paid for it but think it may have been 80 or 90 dollars.The seller told me it was extremely old but could not elaborate on that.

Likely he did not know exactly. Good price. :)

skiproosel wrote on Sep 14^th, 2008 at 5:51pm:

I was wondering if the cast spur on the bottom meant anything, but I don't know where to start looking for that symbol.

Not a symbol just a left over indication of the manufacturing process.
:)

Here is a link for more info
http://www.sheries-kitchen.com/cast%20iron/history_of_casting.htm

Best, Duncan

The real question is, Does it cook a good feed Skip? ::) ;D

Robbo

Don't know Robbo never used it! ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the feedback Duncan

All the best
Skip [smiley=ninja.gif]

skiproosel wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 9:54am:

Don't know Robbo never used it! ;D ;D ;D

That sir is cast iron abuse by neglect. :'(

skiproosel wrote on Sep 25^th, 2008 at 9:54am:

Thanks for the feedback Duncan

All the best
Skip [smiley=ninja.gif]

Glad to help :)

Best, Duncan

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