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Camp Oven & Outdoor Cooking >> Camp Ovens - The History >> Maryborough QLD Ovens https://www.aussiecampovenforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1434369833 Message started by Saltbush Bill on Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:03pm |
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Title: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Saltbush Bill on Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:03pm
The following photos are of various emblems / embossing / trademarks that I have seen on camp ovens made in Maryborough QLD. To the best of my knowledge they are all from the Albion Stove Works , or the foundry that was eventually known by that name. At worst they are in at least someway related to each other.
Most of these logos are already documented on this forum or have popped up on other sites or on Ebay over the years. This is my attempt to scrape them all into one pile to make it a bit easier to find them. If anyone has more information or photos of other Logo / Brand designs feel free to add them. Below the photos are a couple of posts by other members that add a little more information. This first one is the one we all know, and seems to be the most common. This logo appears on the underside of most Albion Stove Works lids and on the side of some ovens. This logo was on an 18 inch oven at a historic Museum/ Village. John Walton and Son This one just says Albion No 12 LogFire wrote on Feb 10th, 2009 at 10:12pm:
Kingsthorpe David wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 7:27pm:
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Jun 17th, 2015 at 5:04pm
Rory the information I have been able to find to date doesn't fully agree with the information you have posted up. This is an outline of what I have been able to find out so far.
John Walton was a founding partner of the "Albion Stove Works" in 1895 with a fellow by the name of Hansen. The foundry was situated in Kent Street Maryborough and the block was bounded by Kent, Amity, Sussex and Unity Streets. Walton left the partnership in 1907 and sold his shares to a fellow by the name of Hockley who had other businesses in Maryborough. Hockley absorbed the business in 1913 but kept the Albion name until 1917 when he opened a branch in Brisbane after which just the Hockley name was used. The stoves always kept the Albion name though and I would assume the camp ovens also. Hockey amalgamated with United Metal Industries (UMI) in Brisbane in 1924 - I believe Hansen, John Walton's old partner, started UMI. It appears a remaining Hockley store in Maryborough and the Albion Foundry were finally closed in 1925. Now back to John Walton. When Walton sold his shares in the "Albion Stove Works" to Hockley in 1907 it was agreed that he would not open another foundry in opposition for some years. When Hockley amalgamated with UMI in Brisbane in 1924 this freed Walton of the agreement and he opened the "John Walton Stove Foundry" in Neptune Street Maryborough. He was joined by his son John Jr, and later (1945) his grandson Bob. The foundry closed in 1968. I think it is safe to say that the camp oven you have pictured above with the John Walton & Son Maryborough logo on it has nothing to do with the "Albion Stove Works" but was made in the "John Walton Stove Foundry". Anyway I hope this information is of interest. I have photos of both the foundries at home. When we get home from this trip I hope to follow up some other leads I have to try and find out more history on these foundries. Jeff |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Saltbush Bill on Jun 17th, 2015 at 8:20pm
Thanks for adding that Chally, Ive known since we talked about this in person that you had differing opinions on the subject. It seems I got you to come out of the wood work. ;D
It looks like you have put in some hard yards to get to the guts of the matter. Personally I don't want to say what is right or wrong, I'm just trying to encourage discussion on the ovens that bear the Maryborough name. My personal opinion is that there is still a lot to be learned about these ovens. If you happen to have photos of any other logos pertaining to these ovens please add them to this post By the way could you please add the photos of the two foundries to this post if possible. SBB |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Jun 17th, 2015 at 9:36pm Saltbush Bill wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 8:20pm:
I'm not saying that the information I have outlined above is correct but that is the gist of my research so far. I sure hope we can find out more about these ovens also. A lot of missing history. As for the photos of the foundries, I don't have them with us but when we get home, which is some time away, I will post them up as they are not digital files and we don't have the photos with us. Jeff |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Jun 17th, 2015 at 10:11pm
The first logo was on the side of an Albion base. The second photo has been posted on here before but I thought it would fit in this thread.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Derek on Jun 20th, 2015 at 9:45pm
Poddy Dodger has a lot of information about Albion that he got from the Maryborough Historical Society
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:02pm
Another Albion Stove Works logo on an oven Astro has.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:57pm
This is another John Walton & Son Maryborough logo but as you can see it is on the top of the lid.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Saltbush Bill on Dec 31st, 2015 at 11:03pm
Nice one Jeff, Ive never seen one stamped that way before.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by poddy dodger on Jan 1st, 2016 at 11:23am
I think Albion were a bit like Furphy, the history of their ovens is vague and they kept changing the way they cast their name on pots and lids.
Like SBB I have never seen some of those logos you picture. I also have a copy of that picture of the Albion Stove Works 1907, can't remember whether I took it or someone sent it to me. :D :D I have a couple of Albions also those with the UMI logo on the side of the pot. The best wishes to you all for 2016. Rob. |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Jan 1st, 2016 at 12:21pm
The Walton ovens were made in a different foundry to the Albion ones. My mates brother in-law's first job was working in the Walton foundry. He never kept any of the camp ovens unfortunately.
All the best for 2016 to you and Loraine also from Jude & I. Jeff |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Kinga on Feb 19th, 2019 at 7:37pm
I just picked up an Albion stove works oven today 15inch
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Kinga on Feb 19th, 2019 at 7:37pm
Another picture
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Derek on Feb 19th, 2019 at 7:52pm
Nice one.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Feb 20th, 2019 at 10:32am
Nice old oven.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Kinga on Feb 20th, 2019 at 9:22pm
Yeah I am pretty happy with it
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Derek on Feb 20th, 2019 at 10:55pm
Saw one just like that at Stanley in Tasmania last year. Would have bought it but had a crack in the lid.
Sure is a nice oven. |
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Feb 21st, 2019 at 4:14pm
Yep should be a nice old oven to cook in.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Bennojackofall on Mar 18th, 2022 at 4:45pm
Anyone have any information on the date of this No.2 Grain/Corn Grinder made by the Albion Foundry in Maryborough QLD. I think it was made between 1890-1904 from the information I've managed to find.
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Title: Re: Maryborough QLD Ovens Post by Chally on Mar 18th, 2022 at 4:56pm
Nice! It would have been made between early 1890's to 1923 when the Foundry closed.
Jeff |
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