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Sep 29th, 2007 at 12:26pm

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I am starting to get an interest in sour dough.  Working from scratch and creating a good loaf of sour dough bread.

Is there anyone else out there doing this.


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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2007 at 1:29pm

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Yes. I am cooking bread from scratch.  It is progressing in stages, first it was inedible, then it was a bit scone tasting, now I am in the third stage where it tastes exactly like bread and I am working on getting a bit more rise from it.

I use yeast and Baking Soda. Not sure what sourdough is ??


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As far as I know, sourdough is produced by using an already active yeast culture, a bit like distilling where they throw some of the last batch of fermented material back in with the new one, the yeast is already active & some of the flavour carries over with it giving the "sour mash"

for me though I prefer dried yeast to make my bread, it's just easier when camping,
I have tried using a mixed yeast of dried & the sediment from my home brewed beer which is an active culture but with mixed results, the dried or compressed yeast alone is more predictable.

A few cooks I know keep a container with a little flour, water & yeast in it, then feed it with sugar every couple of days to keep the yeast active, it looks & smells rancid but this is where they get the "sour" from.
some beer brewers do the same thing.

Any way, thats my 2 cents worth, hope it helps Derek.

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I'm the same Mick, have always used dried yeast but I have tasted sour dough bread and it's definitely different.  I have ordered some cultures from Tasmania so am going to try it anyway.


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Thought this link may interest you Derek.

http://www.nyx.net/~dgreenw/sourdoughqa.html

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Hows the bread going Derek??

Have you got your cultures yet?

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Derek wrote on Sep 29th, 2007 at 12:26pm:
I am starting to get an interest in sour dough.

Is there anyone else out there doing this.


Derek

I have been lately Derek! with good results, it rose better than a normal dry yeast mix.
I first started a yeast culture (dry yeast, flour, sugar & warm water)  with the intension of keeping it going indefinately but I found that it worked brilliantly after 24hrs & then dropped off after that.
A fact backed up by my wifes chef friend, she tells me that in a resturant they would start a yeast culture one day to be used entirely the next day & then start a new one again so it is basically fermenting over night & breeding before use.

Mix.
1/2 cup plain flour
2 tblsp dry yeast
2 tblsp white sugar
1/2 - 1 cup warm water (24C)

leave in a warm spot in a closed but not sealed container

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Mick

I haven't got around to it yet.

Do you know that real sour dough culture doesn't have yeast in it.  Well it does but they are natural yeasts captured from the air.  When you get a culture going properly with natural yeasts it just keeps on keeping on.

Some of the guys in the US have cultures dating back 100's of years.

Going to give it a go some day.


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Yeh,
I read in Jack & Reg's book, how Jack makes his from potatoes.
Been think'n of given it a try, also I read some where here a post from Carolyn about using potatoe water I think?

talking about long life yeast strains, I heard some where that the Coopers beer yeast culture is over 100yrs old.

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This is how to get a natural soughdough starter going.

Might give it a go sometime.

Here are some recipes to go with it http://santostrading.com.au/recipes/index.html

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Instead of using baker’s yeast as a bread starter, many people prefer to use sourdough, which is simply a flour and water mix that collects wild yeasts from the atmosphere.
Ingredients

    * 1 cup unbleached plain wheat flour
    * 2 cups pure filtered water

Step one: In a ceramic bowl, mix well 1 cup plain, unbleached wheat flour with 2 cups spring water (no chlorine). Cover with a cotton cheesecloth, and peg it to the rim. Leave this near the kitchen window, not in direct heat or light, but in a warm nook. Give the mix a stir a few times during the day.

Step two: After 2/3 days, stirring regularly, bubbles will appear on the surface, evidencing the presence and action of wild yeasts. Now feed it, like a new baby, by adding 1 heaped dessertspoon of flour, plus same amount of water and mix well, until there is no dry flour left, and transfer the mix to a new, dry, clean ceramic bowl. Feed it more when the bubbles again appear, but when 7 days has passed, it’s ready to use.

You have your sourdough starter. And each is unique according to the variety and density of the yeasts gathered there. There are hundreds of different yeasts in the atmosphere.

Some sourdoughs being used in the US and Europe today began their lives as far back as the 1850’s!

Sometimes, some brown liquid (hooch) may form on the surface. This is ok. If the mix is already fairly wet, you can drain off the hooch. If not, you can simply mix it back in.

Step three: After 7 days, distribute the mix into 500ml. (or less) glass jars, perhaps 3 - 4 jars will be needed. Don’t use metal or plastic containers. Always leave some space at the top of the jar for expansion, and the lid should have a small breathing hole, like nail size. Store these jars in the fridge.

For use in sloooow bread-making, to make about 3 medium loaves, mix 250mls. of starter well into the dough, and leave it sit overnight (as per the previous recipe pages). It will rise slower than baker’s yeast. When you have just 1 jar of starter left, empty it into the ceramic bowl again, add 2 cups of flour, 2 cups of water, and leave out, covered, for 24 hours, giving regular stirs. This activates a new batch. If you want more, do the same again next day. Then put back in clean jars once again, and into the fridge.
 

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