AUSTRALIA'S ORIGINAL AND BEST CAMP OVEN AND OUTDOOR COOKING AND CAMPING FORUM

Reply #30 - Dec 2^nd, 2007 at 10:15pm

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Reply #31 - Dec 2^nd, 2007 at 10:29pm

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Derek

The Maori's loved the Camp Ovens as they lent themselves to side cooking at Hangi's, with an abundance of hot coals available.

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Reply #32 - Dec 2^nd, 2007 at 10:41pm

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Have sent an email to a foundry in NZ called Buchanans. They were established in 1878 over there.

Here is there website http://www.buchanansfoundry.co.nz/profile.html. ; If you look at the bottom old photo on the left it looks like they is possibly a camp oven in front of the group. I have tried to blow the pic up but no good.

Any way I have asked if they can help and if not perhaps someone in the industry over there that might.

See what happens.

As Big Kev used to say - I'm excited. Grin

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Reply #33 - Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 12:27am

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Here ya go:

That's to the usual forum size of 640 pixels wide. I had it up to 1000, the outward curve on the pot is more obvious at that size.

{{I have Photoshop Elements and upped the resolution to 180}}

& when I took my glasses off to look at the photo on the right, I just had to ask myself if there could be camp ovens in the photo.

Look at the worker in the middle left. To his right are some 'products' I think.

Like you, to me this is very interesting.

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Reply #34 - Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 12:19pm

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Below are the emails I traded with Buchanans Foundry. Would seem from his responses, although not real helpful, that these are possibly New Zealand made camp ovens although he says they didn't make these particular ovens.

Don't know where to go to now.

Derek

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From: Peter Hurst [mailto:peter@buchanansfoundry.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:06 PM
To: 'Derek Bullock'
Subject: RE: Cast Iron Camp ovens

Derek, Yes we have made camp ovens with similar designs, apart from this I have no further information for you, Regards Peter

Hi Peter

Thank you for your email.

I am not looking to get camp ovens made, merely trying to find where these ones were made and possibly their age. All we have to go by is that they have been in a NZ family for over 40 years that is known.

It is the patterns on the lid that seem to have people confused. Do you recall if your foundry made camp ovens with similar designs.

Regards

Derek

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From: Peter Hurst [mailto:peter@buchanansfoundry.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:39 AM
To: derek@aussiecampovencook.com
Subject: RE: Cast Iron Camp ovens

Derek

My Foundry has made hundreds of these camp ovens up until 2004 when the patterns for these ovens were destroyed in a fire. With our version the handle attachments were slightly different and we omitted the 3 legs from the base of the oven. Your best bet for supply these days would be China.

Cheers & Regards

Peter Hurst

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Stalker [mailto:pamela@buchanansfoundry.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 10:35 a.m.
To: Peter@buchanansfoundry.co.nz
Subject: FW: Cast Iron Camp ovens

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Bullock [mailto:derek@aussiecampovencook.com]
Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 1:35 a.m.
To: sales@buchanansfoundry.co.nz
Subject: Cast Iron Camp ovens

Hi

I am enquiring as to whether your foundry ever made cast iron camp ovens. Attached are two photographs of camp ovens that have arrived here in Australia from New Zealand and I am trying to locate where they may have come from.

Due to the style I have had experts in the US date them to approx 1880 however nothing is confirmed.

Did your foundry ever make camp ovens? If so can you provide details?

If you did not perhaps you could possibly provide me with details of old foundries in NZ that may be able to assist me.

Kind regards

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Reply #35 - Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 1:52pm

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How about national or equivalent of state or provincial arhives or archives associations, a univerasity even, maybe? At least you might clue in on any associations. One would think there would be people in NZ stuying indrustial history, at least.

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Reply #36 - Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 3:27pm

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Sent an email to the New Zealand Museum. See if that turns up anything.

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Reply #37 - Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 5:34pm

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Wow...Mr Hurst maybe feels you are trying to obtain his patterns and commence production. That would be an underarm trick...sorry, meant underhand Embarrassed

Thanks Derek

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Reply #38 - Dec 4^th, 2007 at 6:30am

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A while ago I contacted the Maryborough Historical Society for info on the Albion Foundry as I have a couple of Albion pots. A few weeks later I recieved a large envelope from the Queensland State Library with heaps of stuff about the foundry including copies of old photos.
Seems Albion closed its doors for the last time in 1907 so my pots are a least 100 years old, be interesting to know where they've been and what they've cooked before they came into my possession.

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When I die I hope my missus doesn't sell my camp ovens for what I told her I paid for them. pd

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Reply #39 - Dec 4^th, 2007 at 7:08am

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PD.
That is the real charm of these old CI pots, pans, whatever, they have a story there to tell.
Reminds me of the time a mate and I were full time gold sluicing at Trunkey Creek. It was in an area where mining first started in about 1875, pans, banjo's and cradles.
We had a rough camp setup, and often around 5.30 or 6pm. whilst quietly eating dinner, would hear the "clack clack clack" of some old long gone miner working late at his cradle.
Of course it was only a bird of some description getting ready for bed, but in situations like that history comes right up to the present time.
Still have a collection of old wax match tins, worn through hobble swivels, horse shoes, broken bits of picks shovels etc. from those days. All with a story to tell.
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