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Feb 9th, 2010 at 7:30pm

Saltbush Bill   Offline
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Don’t know if this pot should really be in the history section….but it may be useful for identification purposes and also to see how many others are out there.
This is  the roughest cast oven Ive seen to date, The mob that made this could have taught Furphy a thing or two.
The oven size is about 11 ˝ inches…..a Metters 11 lid nearly falls right into the pot, a 12 Metters is way to big,
The lid shape is very similar in shape to a Metters, the legs are a Metters shape, how ever they are much more solidly built.
The whole oven is very solidly built and is quite heavy 9.57 kg, as something to compare to my Metters 11 inch weighs 6.40kg and my 12 inch 8.25kg.
It has weird shaped ears that are mounted about half way down the pot, not near the top like most ovens.
The wall thickness varies from almost 8mm down to 4.5mm.
As mentioned before the casting is as rough as guts, see attached photos.
Has anyone seen others like this?…..or does anyone else own one? Or does anyone have any idea were it might have been made?

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Casting mark around lid handle
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Casting marks around ears
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Ears positioned half way down pot
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NOOOO thats not rust thats more casting marks
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Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 8:30pm

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Yes SBB, I have one, maybe not as rough as yours but the same. The casting marks around the lid and ears are identical to mine, I tried to tidy them up a bit but gave up as they don't affect its performance.
I paid $55 for mine last year, I reckon it's Aussie made and I like it as the lid fits well and it's robust enough to take bush. I have no idea who made it, I will bring it to Broke for the "Show and Tell".

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When I die I hope my missus doesn't sell my camp ovens  for what I told her I paid for them. pd
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Reply #2 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 8:46pm

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Ugly little buggers PD.......but they have character and I love mine
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 12:28pm

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I've got one too SBB, however it appears not quite as rough as your's. The old lady I bought it from claimed it had been in her family for at least 40 years. It apparently belonged to her parents and she thought it may have been purchased new out Ballarat way, however she wasn't sure.

Ive found it to be a very well found and robust cooking pot with decent sized sturdy legs and a good heavy heat holding lid, equipped with 3 venting lugs like the Metters. I have always suspected it to be of Australian origin, as the design seems to reflect the influence of other fine Aussie camp ovens like  Metters, Harding, RM Williams, etc.

It bakes, roasts and cooks superbly.  The only defect is that the ears are cast a tad too low which causes a full pot of stew, for example, to be a little unstable when suspended from a bale handle, however this is of a very minor concern compared to it's other fine attributes.

Overall it's a top cooking pot and well suited to the rough and tumble of bush camping.  I love to cook with it and would rate it superior to Furphy and due to the height of the ears, not quite as good as Harding, RM Williams or Billmans.
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 1:48pm

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Reckon I've got one as well

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or at least it looks similar
I have not cooked anything in mine from memory

Skip Smiley
 

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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 2:13pm

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You would have to say that the poor casting on these ovens sure makes them a collectable item, now I need one, I feel left out.
 

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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 2:36pm

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Michael,

There certainly worth getting if you come across one.

I picked mine up for $20 some years back.
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 2:43pm

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SJ
Thanks for the photos ,,,,I notice your lid looks pretty rough inside.

Skip
Those photos jolted my memory.......I remember you posting photos of that pot on the forum ages ago and asking if anyone knew anything about it. Yours has the interesting swirl marks inside and out in the casting  Smiley Smiley
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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 2:54pm

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One good thing about a rough casting is that the black seasoning seems to stick like sh%t to a blanket Wink
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 3:57pm

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I have one also.

And a little bird tells me they were made at the old Alexander Carmichael foundry in Sydney (remember the old carmichael gas ranges?)

How do I know this? A good friend who was the engineering manager there gave it to me about 40yrs. ago. He used to hand them out to his camping/fishing mates.

The CI skillet was also made there (12,1/2") and is almost as heavy as the camp oven.

I think Carmichaels were taken over some years ago by the NZ Kirby group.
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