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Reply #20 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 5:27pm

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Are you looking for an old Simpson spun CO?

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TBF wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 5:27pm:
Jeff

Are you looking for an old Simpson spun CO?

No Aart as I bought one a bit over a week ago now (still waiting for it to arrive). I was just trying to find out some history on them thanks.

In my searches on here I think I saw a photo of an old one you had?

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Hey Chally
Are you home for your trip yet ?   Cheesy Cheesy
Can't wait to see the old mans oven as I think it will be a good one I hope .
 
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I found the information on A Simpson & Son Ltd but I'm having trouble scanning it to put on this post so I will persist to get it sorted. Here's a bit of a summary:
Alfred Simpson established a hardware store in Gawler Place in 1854 It was named. In the 1870s he had built a factory in Freeman St that was bounded by Pirie and Flinders St. During the 1880's the factory was described as having several different departments where skilled workers manufactured such things as:
bedsteads, safes, iron wares, ovens, galvanised wares, tin wares, buckets, enamel signs, brass & copper and iron wares and enamelled hollowware just to name a few. During this time they employed around 200 people so it was a fairly big operation during this period.

In my opinion the bedourie's could well date back to the late 1800's and looking at their pressed steel construction as opposed to the spun steel, I would say that it is more than likely. I also have a collection of quart pots that were made by Simpson as well having the same imprint on them.
Here's a few shots of the ones I own.Yu will notice that one is spun steel and the rest are pressed steel construction. They are a fantastic piece of Aussie history in my opinion so if you ever come across one make sure you jump at the chance to own one. And once more they are great to cook in.
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Reply #24 - Feb 25th, 2014 at 7:03pm

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Good information and great photos Dave, I have one Simpson Bedourie which is 14 inches across, Im yet to find the other sizes you have.
Like you Ive searched around the net at different times but have never come up with much more than what you have already posted.
Simpson did make a huge variety of gear through the years. My Mother had one of their washing machines back when I was a small boy. I believe it was purchased in very early 1960. It ran on 32 volts, which was a commonly used voltage back in those days. Mains power was yet to come to a lot of small bush towns and people living on stations back then. At that time very few 32V appliances could be bought so I guess Simpson had found a small alternative market there.
The only other electric appliance she owned from memory was a 32V Sunbeam Mixmaster.

Chally here are a couple of links that Ive come up with over the years on Simpson, not a lot in them that Dave hasn't already supplied but they may be of interest.
http://www.samemory.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=1103

http://www.auspostalhistory.com/articles/1690.php
 
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Reply #25 - Feb 25th, 2014 at 7:51pm

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Thanks Dave and Rory for the information and the photos. I have saved those links Rory.

It is great to see the photos of those old Simpson ovens. Those pressed one would be old and have some great history attached to them.

I was surprised by your comment Dave that the Simpson Bedourie ovens could date back to the late 1800's. I have no idea how old they would be but most information says the Bedourie oven was invented around 1920. I wish the history of such things had of been properly documented so we could know the real history.

I think it would be good to have those photos and the links put in the History forum if they aren't already (I didn't seem them in my searches).

Once again fellas thanks very much for your excellent input.

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This thread has me interested, just did a bit of snooping around and came across this.

"One of the first buildings built in Bedourie, the Mud Hut was erected in the early 1880s with mud collected from Eyre Creek. The only other buildings from that time still standing are the Royal Hotel, across the road, and the original Police Station, which now stands on Ethabuka Station.

In the early days Bedourie was used as a stopover for drovers pushing their cattle down to the markets in Adelaide. Cattle from all over North Queensland came through here, as the prices offered in Adelaide were often much more attractive to the wily station owners than those offered in Brisbane. It is believed that the Mud Hut may also have operated as a Cobb and Co rest-stop due to the remains of a horse yard found out back, and an old horse trough, found in the bed of the Eyre Creek.

At the end of the 1990s the Mud Hut passed into the possession of Sir Sidney Kidman - the Cattle King.

The Mud Hut was bought by Diamantina Shire Council in 2001 from Jean Smith, and has since been fully restored with most of the original timber replaced."

So from that it seems that the town it's self didn't spring up until the early 1880s, the question now is, how long after that was the first oven knocked up. And by whom and where? Im thinking Simpson only put the idea into mass production and that some local smithy or metal worker knocked the first ones out. News of an idea like a new type of oven would have taken time to travel back then. Or possibly a local of the area saw the potential of the idea and sent rough plans to Simpson to have them mass produced. All just possibilities and things to think about.
Chally wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 7:51pm:
I wish the history of such things had of been properly documented so we could know the real history.

You and me both.
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Reply #27 - Feb 25th, 2014 at 9:25pm

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Saltbush Bill wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 9:05pm:
So from that it seems that the town it's self didn't spring up until the early 1880s, the question now is, how long after that was the first oven knocked up. And by whom and where?

You have probably seen the following info from this link. http://www.diamantina.qld.gov.au/web/guest/bedourie-visitor-information-centre
"Bedourie is home of the famous Bedourie Camp Oven. Originally made by an itinerant tradesman tin-smith in Bedourie in the 1920’s by inverting a large billy can over a smaller one.  Today the Bedourie Camp Oven  is sold across Australia and around the world and can be purchased in Bedourie".

I wonder if that is local folklore or if there is any actual record of this somewhere???

Saltbush Bill wrote on Feb 25th, 2014 at 9:05pm:
Im thinking Simpson only put the idea into mass production and that some local smithy or metal worker knocked the first ones out. News of an idea like a new type of oven would have taken time to travel back then. Or possibly a local of the area saw the potential of the idea and sent rough plans to Simpson to have them mass produced.

I think that both those scenarios sound quite feasible mate.

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Reply #28 - Mar 2nd, 2014 at 7:53pm

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Great read and photos, thanks for sharing them  Smiley
 
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Reply #29 - Mar 8th, 2014 at 10:03pm

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Well I finally got my Simpson Bedourie Camp Oven in the post yesterday. As you can see by the photos it is a spun steel one. It surprised me how big and heavy it was. It measures 15.5" across the lid and 14.5" across the base and weighs around 4kgs. It has some rust on the inside but should clean up ok. It came off an old property in Western NSW. I'm stoked to have gotten it. Smiley

The photos were just taken with our phone so aren't the best but at least they should show you what it looks like.

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