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Jun 15^th, 2015 at 10:03pm

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The following photos are of various emblems / embossing / trademarks that I have seen on camp ovens made in Maryborough QLD. To the best of my knowledge they are all from the Albion Stove Works , or the foundry that was eventually known by that name. At worst they are in at least someway related to each other.
Most of these logos are already documented on this forum or have popped up on other sites or on Ebay over the years.
This is my attempt to scrape them all into one pile to make it a bit easier to find them.
If anyone has more information or photos of other Logo / Brand designs feel free to add them.
Below the photos are a couple of posts by other members that add a little more information.

This first one is the one we all know, and seems to be the most common. This logo appears on the underside of most Albion Stove Works lids and on the side of some ovens.

This logo was on an 18 inch oven at a historic Museum/ Village.

John Walton and Son

This one just says Albion No 12

LogFire wrote on Feb 10^th, 2009 at 10:12pm:

Hansen & Walton were the original owners of Albion Stove Works in Maryborough before John Walton moved to Brisbane to start UMI.
LogFire

Kingsthorpe David wrote on Dec 13^th, 2009 at 7:27pm:

She grew up as a girl at this address and has added some interesting information re a Foundry next door.
- it was known to her family as the Walton Stove Works
- the foundry was still going when her parents bought the house (new just built spec home) in 1956/57
- the foundry closed in the early 1960's
- originally the foundry took up her parents block and 136 Neptune Street, she said her mother was always digging up iron when gardening
- Grannie Walton lived round the corner in Walker Street, Bob Walton lived on the corner of Neptune and Walker Streets thought to be grandson of John died only two months ago
- the wife in xxx Neptune Street is a Walton from the foundry family and can tell anything about the foundry history, Beryl has her phone number and is well known to Beryl and KD as the lady was a friend of Beryl's late mother
- 132 Neptune Street is a white brick house and was the site of the scrap iron heap to be melted down, the foundry extended for several blocks beneath that house to 128 Neptune Street.

Not making any observations or comments other than facts above.

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Reply #1 - Jun 17^th, 2015 at 5:04pm

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Rory the information I have been able to find to date doesn't fully agree with the information you have posted up. This is an outline of what I have been able to find out so far.

John Walton was a founding partner of the "Albion Stove Works" in 1895 with a fellow by the name of Hansen. The foundry was situated in Kent Street Maryborough and the block was bounded by Kent, Amity, Sussex and Unity Streets.

Walton left the partnership in 1907 and sold his shares to a fellow by the name of Hockley who had other businesses in Maryborough. Hockley absorbed the business in 1913 but kept the Albion name until 1917 when he opened a branch in Brisbane after which just the Hockley name was used. The stoves always kept the Albion name though and I would assume the camp ovens also.

Hockey amalgamated with United Metal Industries (UMI) in Brisbane in 1924 - I believe Hansen, John Walton's old partner, started UMI. It appears a remaining Hockley store in Maryborough and the Albion Foundry were finally closed in 1925.

Now back to John Walton.

When Walton sold his shares in the "Albion Stove Works" to Hockley in 1907 it was agreed that he would not open another foundry in opposition for some years. When Hockley amalgamated with UMI in Brisbane in 1924 this freed Walton of the agreement and he opened the "John Walton Stove Foundry" in Neptune Street Maryborough. He was joined by his son John Jr, and later (1945) his grandson Bob. The foundry closed in 1968.

I think it is safe to say that the camp oven you have pictured above with the John Walton & Son Maryborough logo on it has nothing to do with the "Albion Stove Works" but was made in the "John Walton Stove Foundry".

Anyway I hope this information is of interest. I have photos of both the foundries at home. When we get home from this trip I hope to follow up some other leads I have to try and find out more history on these foundries.

Jeff

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Reply #2 - Jun 17^th, 2015 at 8:20pm

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Thanks for adding that Chally, Ive known since we talked about this in person that you had differing opinions on the subject. It seems I got you to come out of the wood work. Grin

It looks like you have put in some hard yards to get to the guts of the matter.
Personally I don't want to say what is right or wrong, I'm just trying to encourage discussion on the ovens that bear the Maryborough name.
My personal opinion is that there is still a lot to be learned about these ovens.
If you happen to have photos of any other logos pertaining to these ovens please add them to this post
By the way could you please add the photos of the two foundries to this post if possible.
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Reply #3 - Jun 17^th, 2015 at 9:36pm

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Saltbush Bill wrote on Jun 17^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Personally I don't want to say what is right or wrong, I'm just trying to encourage discussion on the ovens that bear the Maryborough name.

I'm not saying that the information I have outlined above is correct but that is the gist of my research so far. I sure hope we can find out more about these ovens also. A lot of missing history.

As for the photos of the foundries, I don't have them with us but when we get home, which is some time away, I will post them up as they are not digital files and we don't have the photos with us.

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Reply #4 - Jun 17^th, 2015 at 10:11pm

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The first logo was on the side of an Albion base. The second photo has been posted on here before but I thought it would fit in this thread.

Jeff

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Reply #5 - Jun 20^th, 2015 at 9:45pm

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Poddy Dodger has a lot of information about Albion that he got from the Maryborough Historical Society

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Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 9:02pm

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Another Albion Stove Works logo on an oven Astro has.

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Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2015 at 7:57pm

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This is another John Walton & Son Maryborough logo but as you can see it is on the top of the lid.

Jeff

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Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2015 at 11:03pm

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Nice one Jeff, Ive never seen one stamped that way before.

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Reply #9 - Jan 1^st, 2016 at 11:23am

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I think Albion were a bit like Furphy, the history of their ovens is vague and they kept changing the way they cast their name on pots and lids.
Like SBB I have never seen some of those logos you picture.
I also have a copy of that picture of the Albion Stove Works 1907, can't remember whether I took it or someone sent it to me. Cheesy

I have a couple of Albions also those with the UMI logo on the side of the pot.
The best wishes to you all for 2016.

Rob.

When I die I hope my missus doesn't sell my camp ovens for what I told her I paid for them. pd

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