AUSTRALIA'S ORIGINAL AND BEST CAMP OVEN AND OUTDOOR COOKING CAMPING AND LIFESTYLE FORUM

Nov 14^th, 2015 at 10:41am

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My best guess; after digging about and then looking at the Forest Service Cookery booklet, I'm thinking it is an old NZ Forest Service camp cooker.
The images in the PDF appear to show 'ears' that are drilled to accept the bail wire. Same as this one.
Its just on 12" diameter, aluminium, very definitely patterned from a Carron. Maybe a special order for the Forest Service from the Carron works ??

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Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 11:05am

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Mate we had a report a few years ago about this design from NZ. Sadly the photos that were linked to an outside server have gone.

Have a read through here - http://www.aussiecampovenforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1196157730/all

You will see a photo on Geoff's profile. Have reproduced it below but a bit blurry due to increase size

I think I have the original photos on an old hard drive somewhere so will have a look for it.

I recall our final analysis was that there was a foundry in NZ using that pattern on their lids. This is however the first time I have seen an aluminum one.

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Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 1:48pm

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I would say that it is a knock off of a Carron oven made in NZ.

I can't see any possibility of it being a genuine Carron oven. Being made of aluminium, the handle shape, solid ears, no legs and no Carron branding (should be around the handle) all seems to back this up IMO.

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Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:08pm

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Hi and thanks Derek.
I do recall that thread and if my memory serves me well it was also cause for discussion on the USA site too.
That one is a genuine c.i example, nice too.

A bloke down the line bought an Alumask 12" aluminium camp oven off me some time back. This one had the original screw-in legs with it too.
This bloke runs a company that has quite a few cullers and the like who bowl over ferals and such from the bush.
His Father was also a culler back in the day late 50s/early 60s +.
I have found a snapshot of his Fathers old aluminium CO that is still in use. Apart from the broken lid handle it is identical. Hows that for nostalgia?

He prefers them for the weight advantage in the bush.
Later I'll flick him an email and find some more about these units.

I resorted to taking an image of the ODT file. So here is that original old cullers CO.

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Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:12pm

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Very likely you are right Jeff.
I was stabbing in the dark with that stretched suggestion.

The crowd that still make the Alumast (old Alumask) may be able to shed some light on the subject; or better still maybe some ex cullers may have the real oil.

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grump wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

he crowd that still make the Alumast (old Alumask) may be able to shed some light on the subject

Can you still get them over there????

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Derek wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:15pm:

grump wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

he crowd that still make the Alumast (old Alumask) may be able to shed some light on the subject

Can you still get them over there????

Yes you sure can Derek. I haven't bought from them, preferring the old original pieces.
I'm not a fan of aluminium cookware but the cullers CO is a bit special IMO.

From the source in Wellington.
Available in 10" and 12" diameters.

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Superior showroom: Eastern Hutt Rd, Lower Hutt, Wellington
Website: www.superior.co.nz

BUY NOW DIRECT FROM NZ MANUFACTURER!

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grump wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

he crowd that still make the Alumast (old Alumask) may be able to shed some light on the subject; or better still maybe some ex cullers may have the real oil.

Please let us know what you find out from them Grump.

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Reply #8 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 12:39pm

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Please let us know what you find out from them Grump. Jeff

Sure will Jeff.

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Reply #9 - Nov 21^st, 2015 at 2:31pm

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There has been no reply from the Wellington crowd that makes the Alucast on any
association with the NZ Forest Service COs as yet.
The good news is I have had response from the NZ Cullers site and am waiting on a good bloke from
that organisation.
In the meantime with kind permission and courtesy of http://www.nzdeercullers.org.nz here are some images
of the said camp oven in use and in the huts.
Have a look around their site, there is good historical images and tales from that special era.

I am quite certain that the first two images are the aluminium 12" COs.

Campoven_bread_baked_by_ted_Smith_at_Lawrence_hut_1960-_Photo_Ted_Smith.JPG (89 KB | )

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