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Reply #20 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 7:55pm

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Saltbush Bill wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 5:48pm:

I haven't seen any real evidence of who made these ovens yet. One is a bad copy taken from a Metters as far I can make out. The other bigger and better cast oven is unmarked as far as I can see. The fact that Huey says they made camp ovens only proves that they did indeed cast ovens, it doesn't prove these were made there.

Rory I made my comments because I knew a lot more of the story than what was posted on here. Rod has been given a detailed account of where the ovens were made and how the old chap he mentions above got them.

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Reply #21 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:10pm

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Nguyen wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 7:35pm:

The only " real " evidence is that the person who passed them on to me ( an elderly gentleman in Taree ) gave me the story of the makers , I don't believe he would fabricate such a yarn as there was no reason to

That makes everything a little clearer. The story told to you by the old bloke who gave you them is probably perfectly true.
Ive read and heard so many conflicting things about different foundries and camp ovens over the years that I'm always a little skeptical until I see some sort of positive proof. Your last comment goes a long way toward doing that.
I guess the next question is did they make these on a commercial basis or just knock up a few for friends and acquaintances. I cant imagine they were selling many with the Metters markings still on them. The other question that arises is that , is the other bigger oven made from an original pattern or has it too been made by using someone elses oven as a pattern.

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Reply #22 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm

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Chally wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 7:55pm:

Jeff if more of the story was told to begin with it may have saved some confusion.
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Reply #23 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:22pm

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Saltbush Bill wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Jeff if more of the story was told to begin with it may have saved some confusion.

Yes it would have but it really just started off asking if anyone knew of the foundry and it expanded from there as these things seem to do.

Once Rod gets the ovens out of his molasses bath he will probably get more detailed photos. Also as he mentions near the start of this thread he should have some more details on the foundry etc early in the new year.

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Reply #24 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:22pm

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There is an elderly foreman of the foundry around somewhere and I'm trying to track him down , I don't know the answers to your questions SBB but are trying to find out more . Rod

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Reply #25 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:36pm

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It will be interesting to find out eventually. Like has been said a lot of Aussie foundries made a few camp ovens but not always on a commercial basis.

Back in 2006 when I was at Wagga Wagga in NSW I went to see the little local foundry to see about getting some ovens cast with a COCIA logo. They, in the past had made camp ovens and even still had the base molds but no lid molds. Was going to cost me near a years salary to get them to crank up to make some. I think that is why Billmans and Larges at Toowoomba who make the Camp Oven Festival camp ovens now charge so much.

I can get a small container of 12 inch camp ovens from China, pre-seasoned and with anything I want on the lid as long as they are all the same for around $8 each but then you have GST and import duties to add to that.

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Reply #26 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:04pm

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Derek wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Back in 2006 when I was at Wagga Wagga in NSW I went to see the little local foundry to see about getting some ovens cast with a COCIA logo. They, in the past had made camp ovens and even still had the base molds but no lid molds. Was going to cost me near a years salary to get them to crank up to make some. I think that is why Billmans and Larges at Toowoomba who make the Camp Oven Festival camp ovens now charge so much.

I can get a small container of 12 inch camp ovens from China, pre-seasoned and with anything I want on the lid as long as they are all the same for around $8 each but then you have GST and import duties to add to that.

Sadly that is the way it is these days.

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Reply #27 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:02pm

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Not sure it was large scale commercial operation , but anecdotal evidence suggests more than making a few for friends . The company was particularly strong in the war years , contributing to the war effort , from what I can gather talking to locals they made quite a range of cast iron products .

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Reply #28 - Jun 11^th, 2016 at 8:06pm